As promised, my 2 cents on a discussion that emerged at Saabs United about whether NEVS should have an ‘Inside Saab’ type blogger and what effect that might have on external Saab websites.
I’m on the record stating that NEVS should have an Inside Saab type website. I think the initial concept for Inside Saab as devised by the marketing team before I joined Saab (it was their idea, not mine) was fantastic and I think we could have done some great things. I think that same concept would be beneficial to Saab as they re-start their operations under NEVS, whether the site be in English, Swedish or Mandarin.
The question, then, as per the discussion on SU, is whether or not an Inside Saab type site can co-exist with independent Saab websites.
This is my kind of entry. Great car, good feelings, plenty of text, and I didn’t have to write a word of it (beyond this introduction).
Ed K, as you’ll plainly see, is a Saab nut and he’s just acquired one of the Saabs of his dreams.
This is his story.
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Dear Swade,
Just wanted you to know that I purchased a Saab 99 Turbo yesterday largely thanks to your raving about these cars over the years.
I am an American living in Budapest, Hungary, and have been on the lookout for a Saab 900 T16S for quite some time now. In Hungary, there is an incredibly strong Saab following, but good examples are near impossible to come by (as Saabs were only first sold in Hungary in 1990).
About a week ago, an opportunity came up to purchase a Saab 99 Turbo which was too good to pass up, even though I had my heart set on a 900 T16S/Aero. This car has had a large amount spent on it over the last ten years, and has been the subject of two magazine articles in Hungary. Here is a link to one of the articles which was from last year, including a lot of nice pics of the car.
We cut the deal last Friday and signed the paper work this last Monday. I spent a good three hours with the car and the previous owner last Friday, and the following is the state of the car:
The paint, wheels, motor, turbo, suspension and interior have been rebuilt as new or refurbished to a very high standard. You will see from the pics that the car really did receive a proper re-spray (with all rot cut out and replaced with healthy metal from a donor vehicle).
The only parts on the car that let it down are the hard to find plastic and rubber perishables. If these were available NOS in replacement, this car would be in factory fresh condition. The previous owner has done his best to get these parts where he could. I have been trolling around Ebay and other websites, and man is it difficult to come by parts for this car!
The engine has 3000KMs on it, and was done to the highest standard by the top guy in Hungary for these types of things. It still needs to loosen up a good deal and felt a little tight. The tolerance of the rebuild was done to a higher standard than factory, and it needed to be “cold run in” (which I understand is a special way of breaking in engines which are rebuilt to very tight tolerances).
The interior finish was done to a very high standard. The color of the fabric and vinyl used are spot on. Unfortunately, the finish of the velour used is slightly off (I had a 1981 Saab 900, and the velour used by the factory had a much tighter weave, but this was the best they could do). That said, the interior was redone by the guy written up in local car magazines as being the best at this sort of thing, and the seats really are in as new condition. By the way, the heating filament and the metal spring/frame was changed in both front seats.
The history of the car is very interesting. In the early 90s, it was very fashionable for Hungarians to purchase used older cars abroad and bring them back to Hungary. Of course Hungarians, formerly stuck behind the Iron Curtain, were amazed that older Audis and Mercedes were within their financial grasp. If something went wrong, the car was often taken off the road for lack of spare parts in Hungary and lack of funds.
This is what happened with this car which was imported from Switzerland in 1991 by a young Hungarian gentlemen. The oil cooler leaked, and the local Hungarian mechanic simply deleted it from the cooling system due to a lack of parts and a lack of funds. Of course the turbo blew pretty soon thereafter and the car was taken off the road. It allegedly only had 133,000 KMs on it at the time. The guy I purchased the car from purchased it in the early 2000s after a ten year hiatus, during which it was in storage. Since buying it, he has put about 20,000kms on it, so it has about 155,000kms on it now.
I had very limited experience with Saab 99s until I drove this car. I am much more familiar with Saab 900s. What I consider to be my first car was a 1981 GL. As you may be aware from the comments I posted when you purchased your 9000 Aero, I own a 1997 Saab 9000 Aero which I have completely restored mechanically with Abbot Racing parts over the last year. I intend to treat it to a re-spray in the spring.
The following are my impressions of the 99 turbo:
I may be wrong, but the interior of the 99 feels a lot more cramped than a 900 (although this may also be partly as a result of my 10 -15 KG weight gain since I last drove a 900!)
The 8V is a marvel. What a sound. It sound more hairy chested than the 16V (although not as smooth).
The suspension is a work of wonder. I took it on some very bad roads and it soaked up the bumps incredibly. Much better than my 2006 9-3 SC. Yet road feel and control in the corners was excellent. I spoke to someone at Abbot Racing about what suspension mods are good to do to the 900, and they said none other than the replacement springs. Abbot Racing said that (i) Saab was constantly improving the suspension over the production run of the 99/900 and (ii) all the good engineers left Saab for GM units in the US in 1990, so the 9000 never had the development over its production life as the 99/900 had.
The turbo of the 99 has a character of its own – it’s all about keeping the turbine spooled between gear changes. It is interesting how if you change gears quickly, you can make use of the pressure built up in the last gear if you time things right. The turbo of the 9000 Aero spools down right away after acceleration in changing gears in contrast to the 99.
This car feels incredibly mechanical – almost as if as a driver, you are merely a cog in a bigger machine full of cogs. There is something incredibly visceral about driving this car.
I love the 70s Swedish design. In its own way, perhaps even more pure (and eccentric) than the 900. Very angular, but also very interesting to look at with a solid sensible layout.
Those lobster claw seat belt clasps are awesome. I thought they would be difficult to use, but in some ways it was easier. I really found them endearing.
The trunk of this thing is beyond belief! Amazing how the low loading lip and flat folding seats would be considered a thing of wonder today – in the 70s it was in a class of its own.
You get the sense that this car is a bit of a patchwork of parts that work very well together as a whole. Almost as if this car was a test bed rather than a production car. As if things were bolted on as part of later development, rather than part of the original design. This is probably true, as I understand this car had a very limited life (one year in the US?) and could be viewed as a development mule for the Saab 900 turbo. The car is more than the sum of its parts – that’s for sure!
The gear shift is the dog’s breakfast. They always sucked on the 900 as well, but I recall the gear shift on the 900 being better than this. The previous owner said he felt that this gear shift on my 99 was better than most 99s he experienced (which I found surprising, although I believe him). Shifting in the 99 is like handling a wooden spoon in a vat of molasses with a bunch of loose metal parts in it. I will do some research as to what can be done to improve this.
The silhouette of this car is breath taking. Pictures do not do it justice. This may be the most beautiful car Saab ever built. If not the most beautiful, at least the second most beautiful. In my view, it competes with the 1986 900 T16S in silver – the model you owned. (I’ll place my vote with the 99 Turbo. The shorter nose gives it better proportions IMHO – SW)
The previous owner was a typical Saab person. In selling the car, selling to the right person was more important to him than the purchase price. I honestly feel honored to have been considered worthy of this car. I feel like I am inheriting a legacy and taking on a responsibility more than just buying a car. As part of the deal, I promised the previous owner that I would give him the right to make a first offer if I ever chose to sell. He acknowledged that I probably will never sell this car, which I think is right. He was selling for personal reasons which I understand and respect.
Over the last two weeks, I have been doing a lot of research on the 99 Turbo, and have found a smaller but tighter knit community on the Internet than with respect to other Saab models. I have always followed the 9000 and C900 scene, but never the 99 scene till now. The 99 turbo Internet community have already been an enormous help. According to certain sources, there are approximately 250 of these cars left on the road, which sounds to me incredibly low given that 10,000 of these were manufactured in total. (Sounds low to me, too – SW)
As to next steps, I am putting the car into winter hibernation. The roads will start to be salted in Hungary in the next couple of weeks. During the winter months, I am planning to source US style headlights. I love the car with the euro headlights, but feel that with the four headlamp US lights the 99 Turbo it is the cat’s meow. I’m also thinking of sourcing repros of the Turbo sticker which was installed from factory on the bottoms of the doors along the side of the car. I asked the previous owner’s permission to do these things – this is the kind of responsibility which goes with buying a car of this type.
Also, it seems that the car needs a new radiator. While it was being restored, thieves broke into the mechanic’s garage and stole the original turbo radiator (I wonder if they even knew what they were stealing), and a regular 99 radiator was installed which is smaller. Or maybe I will just settle back and enjoy the car in the condition it is now for a period.
I’m totally over the moon about the purchase. I was speaking to my wife about it and I feel like I own the first and the last of an important era in motoring. Saab launched into the premium segment with the 99 Turbo and it set the tone of the next two generations of cars for Saab. This was the ultimate golden era in Saab’s history which started with the 99 Turbo in 1978, and ended (in my humble opinion) with the last 9000 Aero officially produced in 1997. I own both the first and the last of this golden age, and feel very privileged to do so.
It makes me all the sadder that the Saab that we all know and love no longer exists. At least we have models of this company’s illustrious past which we can still enjoy today….
If you were born in the 1960’s or very early in the 1970’s, there’s a good chance you:
a) think your local barista (half your age, of course) is kinda cute, and
b) think he/she just might be into you, too.
Newsflash – your barista IS cute, but those smiles you get every morning are not because he/she is into you. They’re what is widely known amongst non-delusional people as good customer service.
All is not lost, however.
Why not enjoy some summer cruising in the dream ride of your youth (or a modern equivalent) with a partner who loves you in the real world?
Here are 10 cars you could snap up today for less than 20 grand, all of them specially selected to put some cream in your coffee.
1. Alfa Romeo Spider
It’s no coincidence that I have a few convertibles on this list. Or an Italian one, at that. Who doesn’t dream of the wide-open road, a rorty engine in front, nimble steering and a gentle breeze?
OK, the gentle breeze might be wishful thinking, but the Alfa Spider features classic good looks that stand out in any civilised setting, whether it be a country picnic or a night at the theatre.
Be wary of rust and poor maintenance. The good news is that if you get a good one, you may never want to sell.
Looks great in red.
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2. Mazda MX-5
Panned as a hairdresser’s car by everyone who’s never driven one.
The little MX-5 is the slightly sensible helmsmith’s dream. It has an unrivalled capacity to deliver 100% fun while simultaneously offering rock-solid reliability and very affordable ownership costs.
Looks like a very obvious mid-life crisis in red. Less so in blue.
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3. Porsche 944 S2
Find a good one and you’ll be amazed at how modern it feels for a 20+ year-old car. It’s got plenty of low-end torque for great drivability in all conditions, superb balance and great handling. The interior’s not luxurious but features all the conveniences you’d expect for the time. Porsche’s build quality means that there’s a good chance it’ll still be in very good condition, too. Pop-up headlamps are a nostalgic touch.
Make sure to check for a good maintenance history and be prepared to keep it going. 944’s have a great record for being rock-solid reliable, but the parts bill will kill you if it goes pear-shaped.
Looks outstanding in red.
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4. RenaultSport Megane
For the mid-lifer who just wants to drive.
This is probably not going to impress your barista, but the RS Megane (along with it’s smaller sibling, the RS Clio) has become a bit of a cult car here in Australia. The RenaultSport range puts the stuff that Renault know from its racing experience into a road car. It’s not a luxurious item, but it’s a fast little four-pot and it sticks to the road like poop to a blanket.
Unfortunately, you won’t get the better-looking new generation for under $20K, but the first generation cars are exceptional value now.
Looks sensational in Blood Orange.
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5. BMW E30 325i
You can get hold of a BMW M3 for around $20K if you look hard enough but odds are it’ll be so rough that you wouldn’t want to buy it.
Instead, why not pick up an E30’s with its handsome looks and get the perfect weight balance and creamy straight-six to boot? You won’t be screaming down the road like a Banshee but you’ll have plenty of fun and just enough cred amongst those that know what’s what.
For those who want a more modern twist, look for an E46 330 Ci. It’s the full bag of fruit in a sharp looking suit.
The E30 looks great in red. The E46 is more commonly found in more Teutonic tones like silver or dark blue.
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6. Holden Monaro
Aussie Aussie Aussie! Oi Oi Oi!
Yes, you can get a modern Monaro for under $20K and it doesn’t need to be the wimpy V6, either. Most of the V8’s under $20K have high mileage but look hard and a good example can be found without too much wear and tear.
It’s not aged as well as people might have hoped but the Monaro is still one heck of a performance package and it might just be the last of an iconic Australian breed.
Infrequent in red. Try to dress it up a little more than this, OK?
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7. Alfa Romeo GTV6
I had to put another Italian on this list and seeing the classic mid-lifer Ferrari 308 is at least $30K out of bounds, the GTV6 gets the nod.
It’s beautiful to behold and the noise….. oh, the noise. A transaxle gearbox helps with weight-distribution and while it’s not overly endowed with grunt by modern standards, there’s plenty of fun to be had on a winding country road.
Those wanting a more modern alternative might seek out a late 1990’s or early 2000’s GTV V6 or Spider.
A jaw-dropper in red. Get the black interior, much harder wearing and better looking than the tan.
Alfa Romeo GTV6
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8. MG B
“I spent 16 grand on an MG B, what else could she want from me?”
It’s been 30 years since Jon English sang those words but not a lot’s changed. You can spend a lot less on an MG B but a good silver-bumper model will still set you back 16 grand.
Make sure that it comes with a set of spanners and a drip mat.
Looks great in red or British Racing Green.
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9. Honda S2000
Is this the last great Honda sports car?
The S2000 qualifies for being a mid-lifer by virtue of its utter impracticality, being a pure two-seater. It also offers a great drive with superior handling and a high-revving engine. Honda build quality and reliability doesn’t hurt, either. Think of it as an upmarket MX-5.
Looks good in red, but seen more often in silver with a red leather interior.
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10. Nissan 350Z
Nissan have won plenty of awards for their V6 engines and five minutes in a modern Z car will tell you why. The 350Z pulls like a train and with sleek modern looks, it’s well equipped to cast a spell. The downside is an interior built to keep the costs down but later models (more $$$) addressed that.
Factor tyre costs into your budget. You’re going to need them.
For a retro option, the Datsun 260Z is available under $20K. It’s got genuine enthusiast cred but the driving experience will show the passage of time in no uncertain terms. If you’re after refinement, go modern.
Looks great in red, blue, black or silver.
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I wrote this piece earlier this week as a submission for a new magazine website here in Australia. As of Monday afternoon, they were accepting freelance contributions for motoring content. As of this evening, they’ve cut a deal with another site to share content. Que sera sera.
So I decided to share it here instead. I don’t often do lists, but it’s one of the styles the editor suggested and I had fun doing it.
The fact that I’ve owned a few cars on this list shouldn’t be taken as evidence of a mid-life crisis, even if I’ve been having one for around 5 years now 🙂
