Before I really even knew what a Saab was, it was the off-beat nature of everything Saab-related that drew me in. This accessories catalogue from 1979 is a perfect example. Everyone of its 8 pages has something different, something destined to be retro-cool from that day it was made – even the ‘fashion’ page.
I got this brochure on my recent trip from Sydney to Hobart, when I picked up our 9000 Aero. My thanks to my mate Bill for letting me bring it home.
I don’t want to sound down about the future, but let’s just say the present ain’t looking all that great.
BAIC bought technology from Saab just as the company was being sold by GM in 2009. It’s four years later and their vehicle based on the Saab 9-5 – called the Senova – has just been tested by Autocar magazine in England. You would hope that with a solid working base and 4 years to remodel that things would be reasonably good. And parts of it are. Plenty of it wasn’t, though.
In short:
The drivetrain shows its age.
The equipment levels are great, but….
The materials are terrible.
That drivetrain is basically the same 2.0 and 2.3 litre turbo engines that Saab used in the 9-5 back in the old days. From 1997 onwards.
It was a great engine to drive in the Saab 9-5 back in the day, but running through the same old yesteryear 5-speed auto transmission, Autocar finds it to be a little bit dated. With the 9-5’s old competition offering 7+ speeds as standard nowadays, I’m not surprised.
Electronics are cheap and ubiquitous these days so it’s no surprise that the Senova comes well equipped with touchscreen infotainment and powered everything. They’ve even kept a large number of Saab cues including active head restraints and central ignition (using a button instead of a key, of course).
It’s the materials that get the biggest panning:
Internally, BAIC have taken a top-down approach: the further you go down, the worse the quality gets. On the top of the dashboard the soft plastics are fine, but once you get down to the central console much cheaper materials are in play and the door pockets are downright flimsy. Never mind competing with European executives, this doesn’t even come up to the standards of an Avensis.
The materials and the lack of driving excitement are the biggest concerns. BAIC has had four years with this car and those familiar with the 9-5 know that they had a pretty decent base to start with. That a car company, even a Chinese car company, couldn’t take that base and improve it to any measurable degree after 4 years doesn’t bode well for those of us looking forward to see what the next Saab-based vehicle will be like.
That car’s due to come along next year, after only a couple of years development time rather than four years. It’ll roll off the production lines in Trollhattan and have a Saab name attached to it. Thankfully NEVS have got more experienced people on board than BAIC, so hopefully their 9-3 based car will fare better than BAIC’s first effort with the 9-5.
It’ll need to. NEVS can’t afford a first review like this one from Autocar.
Here’s another quick nugget from my return trip with my Saab 9000 Aero.
The Saab 900 Enduro is a bit like Bigfoot. Everyone’s heard of it, but 99.9% of the people – myself included – have never seen it. Last week, my visit to Saab Salvage in Sydney changed all that. I didn’t get to see an Enduro running, but I did get to set my eyes on not one, but TWO Saab 900 Enduros.
Well, one-and-a-half.
For the unfamiliar, the Saab 900 Enduro was a special edition put together by Saab Australia just after the Saab 900 was introduced. They took a standard 900 Turbo, added some outrageous fibreglass wheel arches, special graphics, Simmons wheels, a special gauge pack in the cabin, substantially tweaked suspension, water injection and an uprated wastegate.
The Enduro below is the real deal and it’s under reconstruction at the moment. Steve plans to get it running and use it in club events and regularity type rallies – events that will keep it moving and get it seen without taxing it too much.
OK, it’s a little messy and crowded in there at the moment, but that’s life with a rebuild. Steve does it right and this car will eventually look like it just came out of the showroom.
You can see the interior below, which is pretty stock standard for a 900 Turbo of the era. The only change being the extra gauges at the top of the center stack, detailed in the photo underneath.
The Enduro features some funky graphics using the Turbo font first used on the Saab 99 Turbo. Steve’s already got new graphics made up and ready to go.
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The car below is best referred to as half an Enduro. And with that, let me make it clear, this is NOT a real Enduro, though of all the stories that might surround the real Enduros, this car would match any of them.
As mentioned earlier, the Saab 900 Enduro was a limited edition. My understanding used to be that only 12 of them were made, but the 900Enduro website states that there were just 11 of them, with the 12th being a reserve body kit only.
Somehow, a Saab dealer in Adelaide got hold of the fibreglass moulds used for the Enduro body kit and started advertising that he could convert 900 Turbos into Enduros for $5,000. His choice of a two-tone 900 as his demonstrator was interesting and I think it actually looks pretty good.
The dealer’s offer came to the attention of the powers that be at Saab and the following proposition was made: he could continue offering his own Enduro kit, but it wouldn’t be as a Saab dealer. Or, he could keep his dealership status and ditch the custom work. He stayed a Saab dealer.
There’s an interesting story surrounding Steve’s acquisition of this car, too. A friend of his let him know that one of the motoring websites here in Australia had an old Saab V4 for sale. It was while Steve was checking out that ad for that car, that he noticed the ad for this Enduro. The owner didn’t really know what he had and was preparing to destroy the car. Thankfully, Steve was able to pick it up and bring it back to his yard in Sydney.
I hope to get a ride in a working Enduro one day, with a video camera along to record the experience. I’m looking forward to Steve finishing the work on these two, one day in the future.
While bringing our Saab 9000 Aero back from Sydney, I called in on Bill and Jane P, some friends and Saab owners who live in southern New South Wales. When Bill’s Saab dealer closed a few years ago, Bill ended up as the beneficiary of a whole bunch of Saab promotional and technical material.
Bill showed me through the collection and this brochure, despite its evil-looking title page, stood out as something cute from the period. I thought it’d be fun to share here.
Please excuse the crappy phone-camera photos. I hope the writing is legible.
The images are clickable for enlargement if required (click once to isolate the photo and then click on the expand button in the top-right corner of the isolated image to enlarge to full size).
There’s no internet so teenage petrolheads in Australia all read Wheels magazine to get their automotive kicks. There are all manner of car stories, interesting or otherwise, but as interesting as the stories might be, they are matched or sometimes outdone by the advertisements slotted in between them.
There were few ads more exotic than those for Alpine car audio. The reason is easy to see:
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Anything featuring a red Lamborghini was instant automotive porn for a teenage revhead. It wasn’t just the teenagers that were captured by this, though. Alpine built a legacy that lasts to this day by virtue of their partnership with Lamborghini.
Saab also had audio provided by Alpine in the 1980’s. The same little clear/green buttons that looked so fantastic in Ferrucio’s finest were also available in the Saab 900 (in Australia – SW). The inclusion of Alpine audio was a wonderful bonus for Saab fans but once it became known amongst a certain group of undesirables in society, it also became a problem.
Steve Emanuel was working for a Saab dealership at the time. He now runs Saab Salvage, a recycled parts business in Sydney and I caught up with him last week when I picked up our 9000 Aero. I was eyeing off some Alpine units in his office when he told me about the problems they had with these stereos at the time.
The Alpine was a very desirable unit thanks to its great performance, sleek looks and, of course, its tie-in with Lamborghini. Saab cars both on the street and in dealerships became a target because of this. Alpine stereos became targets and seeing as there were a lot more 900s than there were Countaches on the road, you can guess which model became the focal point for break-in and theft.
The worst single instance was one guy caught with 6 stereos he’d pinched from dealer cars that he broke into. But there were many, many individual thefts. Replacing stolen radios and damaged dashboards was Steve’s most commonly completed task for a certain period of time in the 80’s.
Alpine audio made Saabs a target and Steve mentioned that at one point during those years, Saabs were considered the biggest automotive insurance risk in Australia.
The unintended consequences of an excellent advertising campaign.
If you’re a Saab fan – especially if you’re a vintage Saab fan – then you MUST WATCH THIS VIDEO.
The guys from /Drive, the same mob who brought us the Inside Koenigsegg series of videos, spent some time with Bruce Turk and his Saab 96 rally car. The result is 27 minutes of information, sights and glorious, glorious sound that’ll soothe your soul.
Watch it below, or even better, watch on your big screen smart TV with the sound up LOUD.
Pictures are out there, all over the place now. The world can see the basics of the Saab 9-3 replacement vehicle as designed by Jason Castriota. This isn’t just some guy’s idea of what a future Saab could look like – this is IT.
The most common questions I’ve been asked in the 15 months since Saab’s bankruptcy are “Did you see Jason’s new car? What did you think of it?” – the assumption, of course, is that I’d seen it while working at Saab. My response is that I hadn’t seen the car, so I had no opinion to offer.
That was 99% true.
I saw a rendering on Jason’s laptop in Los Angeles, in late 2010. That was a flat 2D rendering with no color or contour and it was difficult to form any sort of impression on that. In May or June 2011, when I was in Sweden, I saw another image as part of a corporate presentation. It was just a small icon-type image in the top quarter of a powerpoint presentation and I only noticed it just before the slides changed. It’s fair to say that I didn’t like the image that I saw at that time.
When I was working for Saab, I lived in a building next door to one of Saab’s design staff. He never showed me the car, but the things he told me (usually over some ribs at O’Leary’s) really encouraged me. I learned a long time ago to hold my reactions when seeing a new model for the first time and that practice, along with what I heard over a few dinners, gave me a lot of encouragement and hope for the future.
That’s one of the reasons I’m so glad that Jason Castriota has released these more complete renderings instead of just the basic images we saw early on. Having spent some time looking this car over from top to bottom, front to back, I think it looks absolutely sensational.
Here’s a couple of rules about new cars that you can take to the bank. Renderings never look as good as the real thing and the real thing never looks as good at a car show as it does out on the road. A car is a three dimensional object that’s made to be in motion, in natural surroundings. That’s the best way to see them. Saab’s PhoeniX concept never looked so good as when it was on the streets of New York.
The Look
I’m happy to have waited before passing comment on this design. The first images that surfaced a month or so ago included the early clay models and they weren’t stellar, it’s fair to say. Anyone who’s seen early clay models of other Saabs know that those models don’t always bear a true resemblance to the final product.
In this case, these new CGI renderings of what would best resemble the production-intent model look fantastic. It is, in my humble opinion, a respectful and progressive movement in Saab design. The car has presence. It looks solid. It’s as sporting as a five-door family car can be and it doesn’t look like it’s trying to be something that it’s not.
The reason I came to love Saab was because it offered the best combination of luxury, utility, safety, comfort and performance that I could find in an automobile. That reasoning was based on the Saabs of old – what Victor Muller first referred to as ‘Saab Saabs’. This car looks like it would have upheld that tradition, and I don’t think I could pay it any higher compliment than that.
The Car
We haven’t seen any interior concepts, so we have to work with an assumption that the interior would have been up to par. We know that Saab would have developed the IQon interactive/entertainment system for this car. It was quite advanced when it was first announced and while it wouldn’t have been the first of it’s kind at release, it would have placed Saab well and truly ahead of a lot of competitors.
Couple an innovative and classy interior (assumed) with this good-looking exterior and you’ve got the visual makings of a great package.
What would have set this car apart, however, is the combination of the visual/tactile package with the mechanical. Saab would have had both a new powertrain and a new drivetrain for this car – the BMW-sourced 1.6 turbo engine and the eXWD system being developed in conjunction with eAAM. This mechanical package was being tested at the time of Saab’s bankruptcy. I was in the building at eAAM when they were removing their components from the test cars. This wasn’t vaporware, it was the real deal, and whilst I didn’t get to drive it, I think this car would have offered mechanical advances to the Saab range that would be similar to what Saab achieved with the 99 Turbo.
This would have been a massive car for a re-born Saab. Have no doubt about it.
Let’s take a proper look, shall we? Click to enlarge.
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The Consequences
The consequences are all theoretical, of course, but I’m going to take a stab at them for the hell of it.
The Swedish government were happy to throw Saab under the bus. OK, they were happy to see Saab trip over their own shoelaces and fall under the bus. To say that the Swedish government couldn’t have taken a longer-term view and do more to help Saab is to ignore things that governments do every day.
Saab were politically sensitive thanks to the focus placed on them by the Swedish press and the Swedish government were more than happy to take the politically popular line – do as little to help Saab as possible and let the company fall where it may. “We do not plan to get into the car business” they said. “We will not risk taxpayer’s money” they said. Well, we all know what happened.
The Swedish taxpayer’s money was at risk because of loan guarantees to the European Investment Bank. The only way the Swedish taxpayer would end up on the hook for that loan is if Saab failed, which it did. It’s not just the EIB loan, however. There’s also the double-whammy comprising welfare payments and the re-training of former Saab employees, as well as the loss of tax revenue from the wages they earned working for Saab as well as the business taxes the government might have earned from Saab. The Swedish taxpayer is now paying through the nose and they’ve lost one of the cornerstones of their manufacturing industry. And if you don’t think Volvo’s slowly but surely heading the same way, you’re not looking close enough.
If the Swedish government had found a way to provide Saab with meaningful assistance – and I don’t know what that way would have looked like but the governments of Germany and France seem to find a way – I think Saab would have had a chance. We might have made it. We might not. But I believe we had a strong enough brand and a strong enough range to do something special.
The Saab 9-5 launch didn’t go well and Saab knew it. There would have been changes in MY12 and MY13 to address this.
The Saab 9-4x didn’t even get a real chance but having spent some quality seat time in it, I think it would have gone gangbusters (in Saab terms) in the United States. Success there might have opened up other markets for that car, too.
And then you have this new Saab 9-3, which I think would have been a technological gamechanger for Saab. I think this new 9-3 (or 900 as I believe it would have been called) would have captured a LOT of imaginations. I know one guy in the press who got to drive an early eXWD prototype and spoke glowingly of it – and that was a prototype. Imagine the finished product.
Sadly, we’ll never know what might have happened. The Swedish government took their stance and now they’re dealing with a shrinking parts business as a result. GM took their stance and I look forward to watching Victor Muller’s legal case against them. I don’t know whether he has a realistic chance seeing it’s going to be fought in GM’s backyard, but seeing this car I can see why he’s so motivated.
Spyker, of course, turned out to have not enough accessible resources. Their main investor wasn’t allowed into the deal and GM blocked other potential investors, right or wrong.
We’re dealing with imperfect information and a sliding-doors scenario that’s 100% irrelevant in 2013. That’s sad, but that’s the way it is.
NEVS
So what of NEVS and this Castriota design?
I’ve mentioned before that NEVS must have rocks in their head if they’re not chasing this design – and that was before I’d seen it.
The simple fact is this – this design was based on the architecture that NEVS will use to build their electric Saab. Using this design is by far the most efficient way to get that car to market quickly, both in terms of time and finance. The fact that the design looks good only makes the case more compelling.
Time will tell what they decide.
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Congratulations, Jason, on a job well done. You created what I think would have been a truly memorable Saab.
It’s such a shame that we never got to see it or drive it.
This exhibition features cars owned by Saab collector Bill Jacobson, from Delaware. Bill’s owned a number of these cars for a considerable time, however he also picked up a number of cars sold from the Heritage Collection following Saab’s bankruptcy. Click here for the full list of cars on display.
Allan H was there and sent along the following photos and thoughts from the opening. Thanks, Allan!
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Dr Simeone must have been pleased – It was announced during the dinner that this was the highest turnout in the history of the museum for an event opening.
Both John Moss and Time Colbeck made fantastic presentations during the dinner. Tim spoke of his recent times with Saab and his initial interview with Victor Muller for the top job in the US. The interview was held via Skype, with Victor’s infant son in attendance at times 🙂 The dedication and drive of Muller was quite evident in Colbeck’s speech.
John Moss gave some behind-the-scenes insights into Saab’s beginnings – how UrSaab used various parts scavenged from other vehicles, stories of personal moose tests and other things.
It was all very entertaining and the vehicles’ owner, Bill Jacobson, was a very approachable man, happy to talk for some considerable time. A gentleman.
I thought I’d summarise the results here in a new post. It’s hardly a scientific poll, but I think it’s interesting to get a look at what this small sample of people are driving 14 months after Saab’s bankruptcy and a few months into NEVS’s ownership.
There are a few really interesting things to come out of this.
First, nearly half the respondents haved moved on to something else, or have picked up something else in addition to the Saabs they’ve owned for a while. That was about what I expected.
The second (and quite surprising) thing was that out of those who have moved on, no successor car was mentioned more than once. The only brands mentioned more than once were Subaru and Mercedes – one of the Subarus was sold again quite quickly and the Mercedes’ were both very, very different types of vehicles.
It just goes to show that Saab had a very special mix of qualities and characteristics in their vehicles. It’s a combination that’s very hard to replace.
Thanks for your input.
ps – the car at the top is one of the replacement vehicles mentioned below. Thanks to Saabdude for posting the link to the image 🙂
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Holding on……
“I’m a very happy owner of a 2011 9-5 Aero. I hope to drive this for 4-5 more years.”
“In May last year I bought a 22 months old Saab 9-3 SS”
“I purchased a 2008 9-5 Sedan aero with lows miles which I imported from the UK to NZ. The car is in good condition and this will be used as our daily car.”
“Have 2003 & 2006 SAAB’s, love them both, drive them for as long as possible. “
“We bought last April a MY 2008 9-5 2.0t Linear SportCombi”
“I have a friend who has mentioned selling her 2006 9-3 sedan, and I’ve told her that I want to be the first person she calls when it goes up for sale…… If my Honda were to die and I couldn’t find a Saab I wanted, I suppose I’d consider a Mazda3 hatch, a VW Jetta wagen (prefer TDI), maybe a VW Golf.”
“Saab for as long as we can get them fixed…. afterwards, probably Buick or Audi.. but hell will freeze over first before I go to BMW.”
“I still own my 2000 9-3 as my daily driver (now at 201,000 miles and counting). It is needing more repairs as parts wear out, but $1000-$1500 a year replacing worn out parts is still cheaper than car payments and it still drives great.”
“You know my answer. I’m still 100% Saab.”
“I bought my 2009 9-3 Aero XWD from the local GM dealer in mid Dec, 2009 during the GM firesale …. I still hope to drive this car for a long time and I am enjoying the car more than ever. “
“We have a 2004 9-5 and a couple c900s. If the 9-5 lasts half as long as the c900s we won’t need another car for 10 years at least”
“I bought a TTiD Aero XWD in dec 2010. That will do for a while.”
“Bought a 2009 9-5SC last week”
“Since the bankruptcy of Saab I changed jobs, and decided to take Redna (my red 9-5 Wagon) with me, so I had to buy it from the lease, and last christmas I bought SnowWhite for my wife a ’08 9-3 Aero TTiD Convertible.”
“I still love the 9-3, but I really needed a backup. Got an Abarth as a second car.”
“I bought a 9-3 SC Aero TTiD -08 for my wife last year. Last week a bought a 9-5 Aero Biopower -11 for me.”
“Planning to keep my ’04 9-3 Sport Sedan for my years to come as the second car in the family. Most of the km’s , believe it or not, we now put on a Suzuki Swift”
“I instead went about as far in the opposite direction to Saab as is possible in many ways and leased a Mercedes Benz Valente people-mover/van. This is now my daily driver while my wife drives the Combi.”
“My Turbo-X SC is about to go over 100K miles, and I’ll keep it until the wheels fall off”
“If we can get parts (no issues so far) I imagine driving Saab (and Volvo) for some years to come.”
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Moving on…….
“So, Saab died and set me free…? Alfas, Porsches, Mercs, Bimmers, and even VWs are, as I now realise, a viable option.”
“I changed to a 2010 Renault Laguna”
“I’ll consider a 9-5 Aero, but I think my next car will be a Jaguar XJ8 or XJ12.”
“I decided upon a 2007 Infiniti G35x. While it has taken some time the car has grown on me, but that’s not to say I don’t still miss my 9-3.”
“Switched to a Subaru Legacy wagon when our lease was up, and I hated it so much (particularly the seats) that we got rid of it within 9 months and bought a VW Tiguan.”
“Once our ’99 9-3 SE 5-door bites the dust I’ll be done with Saabs from the GM era and beyond. ….. I’ve started keeping an eye out for a good deal on an Acura TSX Sport Wagon.”
“Our eyes are on a Kia Optima (not necessarily turbo) and VW Passat TDI”
“Sadly I have got to the point where I cannot wait to get rid of my 200 93 convertible. It has caused me no end of trouble with huge annual repair bills…….given that I am trying to be more sensible with cars and rationalise what I spend on them, at least for the next four years or so, the Saab replacement is likely to be a Skoda Octavia.”
“Bought a Toyota hybrid for running around and am just about to swap my Merc CLS for a Lexus SC430. So all Japanese for me soon.”
“Next car willed probably be a CPO C-class.”
“I still love the 9-3, but I really needed a backup. Got an Abarth as a second car.”
“I started looking for a diesel. I went out to my local SAAB pusher and looked at a used 9-3. I also tried a brand new Hyundai i30 and I must say that I was stunned by the build quality. I got the Hyundai.”
“Planning to keep my ’04 9-3 Sport Sedan for my years to come as the second car in the family. Most of the km’s , believe it or not, we now put on a Suzuki Swift”
“I instead went about as far in the opposite direction to Saab as is possible in many ways and leased a Mercedes Benz Valente people-mover/van. This is now my daily driver while my wife drives the Combi.”
“Looks like the S60 will keep the T5/T6 engines for ’14, so might try and see if I can get another trouble-free year out of the Saab.”
“So, as a short term solution I am looking at a FWD, 4 cyl luxury sedan that gets 45 mpg with a minimalistic design and a reputation for dealers willing to let then go at less than msrp. So, a SAAB? No, shockingly, a Lincoln MKZ hybrid.”
“I moved from my 2008 9-5 SC Aero to an Audi A5 in 2010, then a 2013 S5 last November. My wife switched from her 2003 9-5 Aero Sedan to a 2013 A4 with Sport Package & 6-speed manual trans.”
“I´ve bought my second Subaru Outback (2010 model right now) and it seems to be perfect vehicle for our needs now.”
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Picked up a classic (recently)
“I also purchased a 1992 Classic 900 3 door and amongst other things have had it painted, new leather for the seats, new suspension so the car is like new and I plan to keep it for many years to come.”
“I will remain true to the vintage, pre-GM SAABs that I love to collect. I have no desire to drive anything else. I added two more SPG’s to my collection last year.”
“I snatched a 9000 cc -92 from the dealer while the 9-5 was in for an update.”
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Waiting for an electric……
“If NEVS can produce the 9-3 as an electric car with a range of at least 250km on a charge, I wouldn’t hesitate to pick up a used one”
“we will definitely look at EV/hybrid options (if our Saab dies)”
“If nevs will provide agood enough ev, I’ll get one!”
It’s been almost 14 months since Saab Automobile AB went into bankruptcy prior to being sold by the receivers to NEVS.
14 months is a long time. Thousands of leases would have become due around the world and other potential buyers would have shopped the brand in that time if it were still around.
I’m interested to see if Saab owners are changing brands and if so, to what…..
Have you picked up a new Saab since the bankruptcy at a bargain price?
Has the situation with Saab Parts influenced your thinking on picking up such a vehicle, either new or second hand?
Have you gone vintage and picked up a collectable Saab to commemorate your relationship with the company?
Are you waiting and saving for a Saab internal combustion vehicle from NEVS?
Are you waiting and saving for a Saab electric vehicle from NEVS?
Have you departed completely and shopped elsewhere and if so, what’s caught your eye?
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If I’m asking this of others, I guess I better answer it myself.
Since leaving my employment with Saab in late 2011 I’ve bought an Alfa Romeo and a Subaru. I guess that speaks for itself. I maintain a keen interest with what’s going on with the brand and the community but I’ve owned nearly all the modern Saabs that I’m keen on owning, with the possible exception of a Turbo X SportCombi and a 9-5 Aero Wagon. We’ll likely look at picking up the latter when our 9000 CS dies one day, depending on the parts situation.
Speaking of which, I know the guys at Saab parts are working extremely hard. They’ve taken steps to reach out to customers in Saab’s major markets and that’s a good sign. I still hear stories about people having difficulties in some places, with some parts. I does cause me concern in terms of being a potential owner of a newer Saab, but I think there’s a long life ahead of these cars and if properly cared for, they should provide driving enjoyment for many, many years.
If I get a vintage Saab in the next decade or longer, it’ll be a Sonett III. It’s probably the only one I would consider myself. I’ve had my share of 99s and 900s so for me, the Sonett is the only way I’d go. It’s a magnificent little car.
What catches my eye outside of Saab?
I’m sure no-one will be surprised if I say Alfa Romeo, RenaultSport and Porsche. If I had the space and the knowledge, a private EV project would also be of interest for the daily commute, but that’s not the case right now.
The automotive world’s a wonderful place and the beauty of it is that while there are numerous vehicles that might bore you, there’s always something new and interesting just around the corner. I’m enjoying the chance to familiarise myself with a few of those new and interesting vehicles- even if it’s only in print for the time being.